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ganapati
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Posted on 01-14-08 6:14
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Seeing fully grown beard all over my face, people usually confuse me with Muslims. I have no problem with that. But an incident happened today.. A white man asked me if I was a Muslim. With smile, I revealed I was a Hindu. He made funny face and he said " Whatever you are, you don't respect women....". I think he could hardly know the difference between Hindu and Muslim. For him all brown faces looks the same. But I wanted to defend Hindu. So i asked, "how could you prove that? have you done any study before making that statement?" He didn't speak another word. Whether he didn't know anything about Hindu or he didn't want to talk to me anymore, he just walked away. I didn't bother following him either. However, in my opinion, his statement wasn't not completly wrong. There lots of Muslim rules that proves disrespect to women. But why would anybody who has studied and knows Hindu (Nepalese), think that we don't respect women? Did the man made that his statement ignorantly or he knew about us? Have your say......
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davechappelle
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Posted on 01-14-08 9:04
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This is one area where I laud the Maoists. Many reports confirm that the Maoists have furthered womens' cause in rural Nepal. I also hear that from now on 33% of the seats in government job openings will be reserved for women, including seats on the Constitutional Assembly ( I don't know how that will work, does that mean that men will be barred from competing in some constituencies?). Historically, I have maintained that Hindu culture has been against the sentiment of women, but now I guess some progress is being made (at least it sounds like)
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davechappelle
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Posted on 01-14-08 9:07
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http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=75251 Here's the link I was referring to.
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sajhakhohero
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Posted on 01-14-08 10:49
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Hindu culture promoted dowry and caste system too......mind you!!
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Posted on 01-15-08 12:06
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true that Islam permits Muslim men to own slave women, and permits them to have sex with them without marrying them.....(http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503544596&pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar%2FFatwaE%2FFatwaEAskTheScholar)
~am had 100% agreeable with relying that the dowry and caste system injustice. Btw both man and women must berespect each others, things that seem vanished in this world class facility yugas..comeback to the moeslem`s world , i do heard come to an extend wheares these poligamy`s victim been roof together like a farms! damm
ooops moriya ko bapa, say u that " fully grown beard all over my face".. how will u look a like?..i never knew that, aint that on the side face?
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 01-15-08 9:13
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YES WE ARE SEXIST. Up untill a decade ago Nepal did not even let Females own any sort of property. Did not let females into temples during their menstural cycles. Had to touch their husbands feet every morning. Terminated pregnancies when found it would a girl instead of a boy. I can go on and on ....AND YET YES WE ARE NOT SEXIST ACCORDING TO THESE MORONS ? ha ha ha
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Posted on 01-15-08 9:26
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I would not go as far as saying that all Nepali men disrespect women, but lets face it.. they dont respect women completely! Of course Nepali people are sexist and the sad part is that even women promote the sexism by accepting the discrimination and at times implementing it in their lives. It is sad to see how women are still supressed. You always hear things like "keti bahyera pani yasto garne?" Go back home and compare male vs. female education and I am sure you will see a big gap. A lot of women are expected to get married in a certain age and just fulfill their marital responsibilities and not be interested in their own career. Is it not double standards to expect women to give up their dreams whereas expecting men to fulfill theirs? I do believe that this is changing with time, but the change is gradual and minimal. Be it dating, household chores, career, education, sexual expectation, alcohol consumption, behavior.. etc.. just name it, the society has a double standards.
One would think, the Nepali people in the US have changed their views, but sadly that is not the case. Our society is completely sexist, and I dont see it changing in the near future.
P.S: I took a class where my prof. once told us: Sex is something we are born with, we are either male or female.. gender on the other hand is socially constructed. The society creates the norms and expectation for the different sex and makes everything gendered. Nepal, I believe has a huge seggregation of gender. I could not agree with my prof. more!
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gundaa
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Posted on 01-15-08 11:11
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 01-15-08 11:28
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Who You GUNDAA ? ha ha ha Or The Dominating Males of Nepali Society(to this day still expect their wives to cook, clean, take care of their family, and hold a 9-5 job) ? And For SUPRESSING OUR OWN NEPALI WOMEN FOR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS ? he he he YA I am a jerk for bring out the skeletons of our Nepali society huh !! ha ha ha
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meera
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Posted on 01-15-08 11:33
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I heard this one man say and I found it interesting and thought I would share, "Ma ta nurse sanga matrai bihe garchu." That had me thinking. I don't know where the moron is now, nor do I care, but I do sometimes wonder if he indeed got a nurse. Many not all, Nepali males do indeed discriminate women badly but then again many females discriminate against their own kind too. Ever heard of a "sasu" treating her "buhari" badly? She was treated that way and wants to pass on the shit. Fathers want "chora" but then again many mothers want a son too. Apeing the husband? Taught to think that way? or pleasing the society? I leave it to you to find out.
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Poon-Hill
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Posted on 01-15-08 1:12
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Nurse Sanga Matri??? ha ha, who was that...
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Posted on 01-15-08 1:22
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" Nurse matrai biha garchu ! " there's nth bad abt this statement even women have expectations like doctor, lahure, CEO in a big ass company sanga biha garchu bhanera . The question is are u urself worthy or not to have these kinds of expextations ? I dont think its sexist at all.
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Posted on 01-15-08 1:32
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Meera, i'm sure the guy got a nurse. Nepal has got plenty of nurses. Esp. these days everyone wants to become a nurse. Not that i got a problem with it, but, i believe you should choose your career based on your likings and not just go with the flow. Many of my relatives even wanted me to do nursing, for , they think a nurse gets a good husband. " america ko keta paucha" they'd told me.What kinda sicked philosophy is that! where do these kinda nonsense enter their minds from! And as for nepalese being sexist, yes, majority(almost all) of them are sexist! Males are sexist 'coz womens allowed/allow them to. So i guess they deserve it.
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 01-15-08 2:05
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Huh !! Mr Aviator states," Males are sexist 'coz womens allowed/allow them to. So i guess they deserve it." Whoa !!! ITS RATHER THE MAELS DID NOT ALLOW THEM NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. ha ha ha
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Aviator
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Posted on 01-15-08 2:45
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I didn't come to sajha to undergo a sex transmission. Call me miss BC! Males didn't allow them? yea right! but you don't accept something unpleasant just 'coz someone doesn't allow you. You should learn to fight for your rights and raise your voice against any injustice done to you .
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 01-15-08 2:59
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Madam Aviator, Thousand Apologies. I mean how are you supposed to fight back with your hands tied behind your back ? If you fought back you are at the mercy of those guthi's, pujaris who controll all aspects of our social life. And if you revolted against them you risk the chance of losing everything(family,social status, property, even your antiim sanskar etc etc) that defines you.
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Posted on 01-15-08 3:16
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I understand their plight which might have made them succumb to the traditions or watever .I know not all people are alike but when i said that i said it from my point of view. i mean, if i were told to accept some similar sorta life , i would not. Either i would die or kill them all . i believe it's better to die than to live an un-preferable life.So i will still stand on my word- Males are sexist 'coz womens allow them to .
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 01-15-08 3:33
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I see your point, and agree with you. Our society was not progressive enough or independent just 2 decades ago to think this way. The Nepali society had put shackles around females from becoming independent(all the girl schools in Nepal are not even 75 yrs old).But I do see your point. Thanks
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meera
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Posted on 01-15-08 3:47
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Do (some) males behave that way coz we (females) allow males to be sexist? Hell no! Slavery existed for a long time. Would you say the slaves allowed themselves to be treated that way? They fought and fought and finally change came. We females are slowly realizing it and fighting for our rights. Wonder how many females will be killed in the name of "boksi" or witches before we are treated half the way we should be treated? Just throwing some points there. Feel free to disagree!
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Posted on 01-15-08 4:50
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bathkotha----- i wasnt calling u a jerk i was calling that guy for saying that to him b/c he had a beard first of all we r all individuals we all have gone through different thing in our lives and those experiences shape how we treat and behave with others and for him generalize and say oh u all treat women the same.
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ganapati
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Posted on 01-18-08 8:39
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Following reasons proves Nepalese society a Sexixt:
1. not letting women in the house during monthly period is the worst
proof of Nepales society a Sexist. Not letting her touch other person,
most of food, in a temple, isolaing in community for at least 4 or 5
days and lots of other restrictions. Even worse example can be seen
west nepal where a young girls is kept alone in a "goth" far away from
her for god knows how many days during her mentural cycle.
2. forcing women to call her husband "pati parmeshwor" even though he
beats her every evening and still she has to touch his feet the very next morning
3. killing of fetus when found its a girl. ( a rearch showed that there is a possibilty of a demographic and cultural problem in south indian region in 25 years due to number of girls far more less than that of boys) 4. still not letting women be a single mum ( i wonder if its allowed by law now. i suppose Mum, now, can give her child her surname. please varify this). 5. a widow not allowed by society to get married again. 6. accusing single, old, helpless women of being a witch (bokshi). 7. expecting a wife be a good house wife and taking care of house and family 8. parents still producing handfull of daughters expecting a son and having mentality that "if you don't have a son, who would tourch parent's dead body?" please add more if you can think more....
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