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Posted on 05-18-06 10:52 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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As far as I remember there was never a strong demand for removing hindu rastra tag from nepal. Why did Girija do it?

I am afraid people will hold muslims and christians in nepal responsible for this change while truth is that most nepali muslims dont take beef even when outside nepal... we also protested when someone said that sow-slaughter should be allowed in nepal.

I believe that the new declaration will make minorities scapegoat. Nepal will also become like india where religions can not exist in peace.

Some people from my place are happy about this but I feel terrible... am I wrong?
 
Posted on 05-18-06 9:36 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Girija proclaims that Pasupati should be renamed Pasu... because his logic says ... how can pasu be pati? In Nepal there is no sacred item anymore!! Maoist will destroy all of our historical architect in the valley and destroy all our temples and such ...
 
Posted on 05-18-06 9:52 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Mr aalam , u r very right man the victim of this is going to be muslims and christians. There will be ,with social structure and mentality of south asians, Another BJP in nepal.This has also provided sympathy to king.Stupid SPA.
 
Posted on 05-19-06 1:25 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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who says there was never a demand for a secular state?

grow up guys!

aadivasis-janjatis-dalits have been demanding a secular state for years now. Going secular is good news for Nepal. this is an EXCELLENT news for both the marginalized muslim/ and historically persecuted christian community as well as for the aadivasi-janjati-dalits! mind you, enlightened brahmins/chhetris have also been in the forefront of a crusade for a secular state. they know, you cannot have a 'samabeshi loktantra' with a hindu tag. It is also good news for them.

when Nepal shows signs of going secular, fundamentalist hindus like many of the people on this sajha thread worry about indianization
(read secularization) of Nepal. There are many secular countries, this could be called Germanisation of Nepal, or Frenchisation of Nepal, for both these countries are also secular. But people in this thread are calling it "Indianization..." merely to foment Hindu Nationalism. and these are the kinds of guys who also warn that ‘secularising Nepal’ may lead BJPisation of Nepal ... well, if they stop fomenting hindu nationalism, may be BJP-wannabes will not rear their ugly heads in Nepal. But who cares? Under loktantra, BJP-wannabes also have the right to rear their ugly heads! Why worry?

It don't worry about BJPisation of Nepal at all. BJPs have come and gone... but India is still secular. Nepali BJPs may come too ... but the dalits-aadivasis-janjatis-muslims-christians- and women (who are fed up of patriarchy that directly follows from fundamentalist hinduism) will most likely make them eat 'humble pies' at the polls. Do you remember how manohar joshi of BJP-India was made to eat 'humble pie' at the last general election that ushered Congress (I) to power? BJP-Nepal may come…so what?
As the Chinese saying goes: the dog barks but the caravan moves on.

Who’s afraid of Virginia Wolfe? who's afraid of BJPisation of Nepal? Dalits-aadivasis-janjatis-muslims-christians are a formidable force and they have the numbers. they are also increasingly organizing and empowering themselves- thanks to the space created for them by the 2046 movement.

HINDU Tag is an idea whose time has gone. Gone with the wind! the sooner it goes, the better it is. i have no doubt pashupati nath temple will acquire a much cleaner and more respected image under Secular Nepal. Under “Asal Hindu Rastra Nepal”, pashupati nath had become a poster boy of mismanagement, fraudulence, chakribad, corruption, thanks to the palace and palace-propped puppets. when count draculas like Bharat Keshari Singh & the palace-propped puppets masquerade as spokespersons for "ASAL HINDU rashtraya", this is exactly what happens. You ruin the image of Pashupati Nath – you pollute the holy Bagmati River. SECULAR NEPAL is the quickest way of driving stakes through the hearts of these draculas and their making mess of Hinduism.

Under Secular Nepal, we may finally have the chance to restore Pashupati Nath & Hinduism to its pristine glory. If this is not good news, then tell me what is.

Cheer up guys!
 
Posted on 05-19-06 1:35 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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who says there was never a demand for a secular state?

grow up guys!

aadivasis-janjatis-dalits have been demanding a secular state for years now. Going secular is good news for Nepal. this is an EXCELLENT news for both the marginalized muslim/ and historically persecuted christian community as well as for the aadivasi-janjati-dalits! mind you, enlightened brahmins/chhetris have also been in the forefront of a crusade for a secular state. they know, you cannot have a 'samabeshi loktantra' with a hindu tag. This is also good news for them.

when Nepal shows signs of going secular, fundamentalist hindus like many of the people on this sajha thread worry about indianization
(read secularization) of Nepal. There are many secular countries, this could be called Germanisation of Nepal, or Frenchisation of Nepal, for both these countries are also secular. But people in this thread are calling it "Indianization..." merely to foment Hindu Nationalism. and these are the kinds of guys in the same line also warn that ‘secularising Nepal’ will lead to BJPisation of Nepal ... well, if they stop fomenting hindu nationalism, may be BJP-wannabes will not rear their ugly heads in Nepal. But who cares? Under loktantra, BJP-wannabes also have the right to rear their ugly heads! Let us not deny them from coming into existence.

I don't worry about BJPisation of Nepal at all. BJPs have come and gone... but India is still secular. Nepali BJPs may come too ... but the dalits-aadivasis-janjatis-muslims-christians- and women (who are fed up of the patriarchy that directly flows from fundamentalist hinduism) will most likely make them eat 'humble pies' at the polls. Do you remember how manohar joshi of BJP-India was made to eat 'humble pie' at the last general election that ushered Congress (I) to power? BJP-Nepal …so what? As the Chinese saying goes: the dog barks but the caravan moves on.

who's afraid of BJPisation of Nepal? Dalits-aadivasis-janjatis-muslims-christians are a formidable force and they have the numbers. they are also increasingly organizing and empowering themselves- thanks to the space created for them by the 2046 movement.

HINDU Tag is an idea whose time has gone. Gone with the wind! the sooner it goes, the better it is. i have no doubt pashupati nath temple will acquire a much cleaner and more respected image under Secular Nepal. Under “Asal Hindu Rastra Nepal”, pashupati nath had become a poster boy of mismanagement, fraudulence, chakribad, corruption, thanks to the palace and palace-propped puppets. when count draculas like Bharat Keshari Singh & the palace puppets masquerade as spokespersons for "ASAL HINDU Rashtraya", this is exactly what happens. Any surprises? They ruined the image of Pashupati Nath – they allowed the holy Bagmati River to be polluted. SECULAR NEPAL is the quickest way of driving stakes through the hearts of these draculas and prevent their sullying the image of Hinduism.

Under Secular Nepal, we may finally have the chance to restore Hinduism, and thereby Pashupati Nath, Bagmati & Sali Nadi, to their pristine glories.

May Pashupati Nath bless all you guys!
 



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