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 Is it good to remain virgin before marriage?

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Posted on 10-16-05 1:02 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I am curious to know how you feel at the time when you are having sex?I have promised to remain virgin before I will marry to my Mr.Right..is not it good? because of the some rumors that nepalese girls(not married women) living in the United States are kind'a sluts..I would like to prove that still there are some virgins outta here...soundz cool?
 
Posted on 10-22-05 9:09 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Ok...I haven't read any of the posts above but the answer to the question is: No. It's not good. It's a disease to remain virgin.

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Posted on 10-22-05 10:22 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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According to me, i dont think so it is bad to break your virginity before marriage. I was a virgin when i got married and my spouse was not. Before marriage, i always wished for a virgin mate cause i was virgin too but i found out that my spouse was not a virgin later after the marriage so i kinda felt bad about it!!

I think if a girl is a virgin she shud go for a virgin guy and vice-a-versa..But it really depends on the person.

Goodluck....
 
Posted on 10-22-05 12:09 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Contd.....

Origion of Virginity:

As I mentioned we are directly or indirectly longing for the pleasure. Out of the five sensual pleasures, the richest one is the pleasure which comes form the touch of a body to body ie sex. Religiously, we can see none of the sensual pleasures are appreciated, however, sex is highly disregarded amongst.

For example: Monks and Yogis are not allowed to sing songs and listen to music -restrain of ear sense. They are not allowed to watch any means of intertainment - restrain of eye sense. They are not allowed to use any type of perfume - restain of nose sense. They should eat whatever they are given in the begging bowl - restain of nose sense.

Similarly, they shouldn't be involved in any type of sexual activities - restrain of body sense.

The plesures given by the first four senses are too weak compare to the pleasure given by the fifth, ie sex. This might be the reason why more importance is given to refrain from the sex.

Teaching of Yogies was embraced by the householders. However, it was not possible to follow scrupulously as that of Monks, they tried to follow as much as they can. To live a life of celebacy after marriage was not practicle, so they decided to have celibacy before marriage. This might have been the beginning of the concept of virginity ie not to have sex before marriage.

In Hindu/Baudha tradition, in Indian subcontinent, it is found that more importance was given to man to have celibacy than woman.They said बह्मचार्य , which was mostly followed by man. However, in Western wold, Judaic (Jews, Muslim, Christian) tradition, emphasis was given to woman then man, to have celibacy.

Now some questions have arised:

Why to refrain from the pleasure?
Why to follow these Yogies?
What these Yogies have to offer us?
What are the disadvantages of sensual pleasures?

Contd........
 
Posted on 10-22-05 12:54 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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omg this girl wants to know the feeling/pleasure while having it..you can only feel it yourself, listening to other ppl's feeling about that makes you try doing it so the best way is just get experienced, thas what i think andwho carez unless your new boyfriend/girlfriend doesn't know if you are one or nott btw it's a godgifted thing, do anytime, anyage you want but make sure yu use certain "stuff" and get your partner and yourself checked up before you do itt!!!! <<< virginketi and i dont really think unmarried nepalese women are sluts in US... soundz cool? ;)
 
Posted on 10-22-05 12:56 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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LOL Merojaageer, theres nothing wrong with doing that and doing that doesnt make you lose your virginity cause its simple and naturally, well mostly everyone does that and theres no problem with that!!! Its actually good for you (I heard ) :) you no whud em talkin' abt eh?
 
Posted on 10-22-05 2:17 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The question itself is flawed. I would say that if you let nature take its course, you will end up losing your virginity in the long haul.

 
Posted on 10-22-05 3:50 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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yea what a dumbas* question eh..:$ no offense..
 
Posted on 10-22-05 5:20 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I wonder why people make such a big deal about virginity. If you kiss someone before marriage that is ok, but if you have sex that is big issue. Come on... in both the case you are sharing your feelings and touching each other so whats the big deal.... kissing also has some sensation and you are putting you tounge in some body else mouth... same with sex it has some sensation feeling you are putting your private organ in somebody else organ so whats the big deal. for me both looks same... if you want to be virgin till marriage then do not love or kiss anyone too... if kiss is ok then oral sex is ok and sex is ok.

I have seen so many catholic gals who are ready for oral sex but not sex... wtf... what is the difference... oh I am ready to take it in mouth but not there.... it cracks me up....


 
Posted on 10-22-05 5:55 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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प्रजातन्?त्? ब्रोले क्?या दिएको! हाहाहा!!!!! साँच्?ची हो। साही हो। Catholic Keटीहरुको त बबाल हुँदो रहेछ।
हाम्रा नेपाली मैयाँहरु पनि तय्?सतै हुन के बेर हैन र? अब तय्?समा बाबु-आमाहरुको पनि गल्?ति हुन्?छ। Oh, by the way, म छाहीँ अहिले सम्?म ब्रह्?मचारीनै छु। not just girls, guys are equally big sluts as well. Guys just dont even get called anything such as sluts of whatever. We're lucky we dont have a name as yet! lolol...

 
Posted on 10-22-05 6:30 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I have very little knowledge about Judaic religions. However, I will be giving some exmples regarding the state of Sensual pleasure in Hindu and Buddhist practices.

Geeta is considered to be the core of Hindu practices.
In Sanskrit, Sense organs are called इन्द्रिय।

Geeta condemns the sensual pleasures like this:

इन्द्रियाणि प्रमाथिनि हरन्ति प्रसभं मन। -गीता

यि इन्द्रियहरु उध्योगरत बुद्दिमानहरुको मनपनि बलत्कार गर्न सक्षम हुन्छन।
The sense organs are capable to destroy even the mind of wise and diligent.

इन्द्रियाणां हि चरतं यन्मनोनु बिधियते!
तदश्य हरति प्रज्ञं, वायुर्नावमिवाम्भसि।। -गीता

तुफानले डुङगाको जुन हालत गर्छ, कुनै एउटामात्र इन्द्रियले खुला छुट पाएमा ज्ञानको त्यहि हालत गरिदिन्छ।
As the hurricane destroys a boat, even so, a unguarded sense organ destroy the wisdom.

This verse of Geeta encourage to restrain the sense organs.

यदा संहरते चायं कुर्मोङगानिव शर्बश।
इन्द्रियाणिन्द्रियाथेभ्य, तस्य प्रज्ञा प्रतिष्ठिता।।- गीता

जसरी कछुआले आफ्नो सरिरका सारा अङगहरुलाई आफ्नो कबच भित्र लुकाएर सुरक्षित गर्छ, त्यसरी ज्ञानीले आफ्ना इन्द्रियहरुलाई सुरक्षित राख्छन।
As the tortoise keep its body safe inside the shell, even so, a wise keeps his sense organs safe and protected.

What does Buddha say about the sensual pleasure?

काम सुखं, मिडह सुखं, पुथुजन सुखं, अनरिय सुखं, न आसेबितब्बं, न भावि तब्बं, न बहुलिका तब्बं, भायी तब्बं यतस्स सुखस्स च बदामी। - भगवान बुद्द

Sensual pleasure is a gross pleasure; it is only for dumb; it is only for fools. Never enjoy it, never practice it, and never try to increase it. Always be fearful of it.

In praise of restraining the sense organs:
चक्खुना संवरो साधु, साधु सोतेना सम्बरो।
घानेना संबरो साधु, साधु जिब्बाया सम्बरो।।
It is good to restrain eyes; it is good to restrain ears.
It is good to restrain nose; it is good to restrain tong.

कायना सम्बरो साधु, साधु बाचाय सम्बरो।
मनसा सम्बरो साधु, साधु सब्बत्थ सम्बरो।।
It is good to restrain body; it is good to restrain speech.
It is good to restrain mind; restrain of all of these is excellent.

This is the teaching of Buddha. This is the teaching of Yogis. This is the core of Dharma. Refrain from rejoicing sensual pleasures is the real teaching of enlightened one.

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Posted on 10-22-05 6:43 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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के हो विष्णु-अवतारजी मैले राख्नुपर्ने श्लोकहरु त तपाइले राख्दिनु भएछ । यस्तो मुल मन्त्र त मलाइ पनि आउदैन साथि, आजदेखि मेरो पण्डित उपाधि मैले तपाईलाई पहिर्याइ दिंए । लु जा !!

ॐ स्वाहा !!!!
साथिहो अव उहाँलाइ फलो गर्ने है ।।
 
Posted on 10-22-05 6:44 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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मैले बिशोन्तर लाइ विष्णु-अवतारजी बनाएकोमा नरिसाउनुस् है ।।
 
Posted on 10-22-05 7:39 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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So many people have posted the comments and ideas but I don't see any feedback from the thread created (virginketi). It looks bit strange.

Ms. virginketi, can I ask why you are quiet ?
 
Posted on 10-22-05 8:03 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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After reading all these remarks and thoughts virginketi may not be virgin anymore!! just kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, V.keti it is all on you and you should respect whatever you think is the best for you and your hub. to be. Sex is not everything in life it is just a small part of life and you can live without it too.

Good luck to you !!!
 
Posted on 10-22-05 10:59 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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zz This is the teaching of Buddha. This is the teaching of Yogis. This is the core of Dharma. Refrain from rejoicing sensual pleasures is the real teaching of enlightened one.


I dont see how this can be true...if u guys chek back into historical annuls, u will find that buddha had a wife and she also gave birth to a son..so i dont think buddha died a virgin to be going around preaching in favor of celibacy. If would be a hypocracy,,,afu le moj garnu samma garne,,,aaru lai chai,,,,guys u got the stop going back to religious stuff to decide if this kind of thing is ok or not,,,or may be kunti indeed gave birth to Karna without getting screwed,,or may same implies to "virgin" Mary (or perhaps Mary and Kunti were alien descendants,,dropped down ffrom some UFO,,that's why both of them got such extra ordinary kids)..welll krishna bhagwan and indra were atleast honest regarding the sexual inhibition,,khuleaam moj garyo..

so I would say do whatever u feel like,,,make sure u use one of ribbed, dotted, banana flavored, strawberry flaovred rubber esp the girls who dont want to see some one doing waann waann in their potbelly after nine months,,

for guys who dont have girlfriens i guess hands sure come handy,,a
otherwise drink PEPSI and chill down,,say no to VIAGRA
 
Posted on 10-23-05 6:08 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Prajatantra Ji,
I agree with you. Kissing, oral sex, self sex, unnatural sex, all are sex. All of them produce same type of pleasent sensations. If the story of those catholic girls is true, they are not virgin. Virginity is not important, important is to refrain from sexual misconduct. People always try to cheat themselves. They try to manipulate the reality in their favor. This is the weakest point. How people do that I will illustrate through an example.

Here is a very old story, you will enjoy it.

Donation is excellent. In our tradition and most of the traditions of the world, donation is considered one of the most pious acts.

Long long ago, a group of Indian merchents were returning to their home from Lanka via boat with commodities. They came across a Hurricane and scared to death. They started to make promises to their deities, if they got saved they would do some wholesome things.

One of them had a unique house in the city, which was most beautiful, and very expensive. He spoke out " Deities if I get saved form this hurricane, I will sell my beautiful house and donate all the money, I sware." To the surprise of all of them, the hurricane stopped and they arrived home safely.

When they arrived home, they started to fulfill their promisses. Everybody were looking at him, whether he would be able to donate his beautiful house. He had biggest attachement to his house/wealth, however, he had to fulfill his promise as well. What he did was he decleared that anybody whoever would boy his house must buy a cat. He put the price of the house as one gold coin where as that of the cat as one Lakh gold coins. The house worthed one Lakh one god coins and somebody bought it. This guy donated one gold coin which was the price of the house, and kept one Lakh god coin which was the price of the cat.


 
Posted on 10-23-05 6:13 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Funny isn't it. He kept his words through a trick without losing anything. It doesn't matter what he did. However, his volition matters. It matters what the state of his mind was.

In our world it is considered on of the wisest trick, however, the spritual world is different. In spritual world only state of the mind counts, nothing else. State of his mind was full of greed. Greed is negativity of mind which makes people suffering.

Donation is done to overcome the greed. To make mind generous. Doesn't matter how much you donate. It matters what was the state of your mind while donating.

Similerly, people do tricks in all other fields. As you said about those catholic girls, they are fooling themselves.

I am sorry, I must bring the sprituality in this topic because virginity was origionated from sprituality and it is still related to it.

Readers, don't read me being biased. Let me end the postings, you will appreciate my judgement :).
 
Posted on 10-23-05 7:39 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sex........Gooooooooooooooooooooooooood
 
Posted on 10-23-05 9:41 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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NO everyone should have sexperience before they get married so that they know what to do. Thank you!
 
Posted on 10-24-05 12:30 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hey guys,
Seems this thread is getting interesting but I was shocked to know the ideas of many of my frens here (though its my personal conception).

Once again I say, wots wrong with having sex???? well if u meet ur kind of girl/boy??? Sex is just like any other basic needs. I guesss evryone enjoys and wants to have (EXCEPTION--- if ur not Spiritually enlightened and gone beyond mind and body)

Having sex is fun whetehr before mariage or after, wot does it matter? OK u can remain VIRGIN be4 marriage if u wish but I KINDLY request u all dont force urself..... if u like just go for it..........Life is short, live colourful life (DOESNT MEAN, go with every Tom DIck and Harry)

All I can say is HAVE SEX, enjoy life in full extent.... but for that find ur type of person.


Good luck....

Live life full circle.....



 



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